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Interview with Carol White, June 29, 2015

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:14 - Childhood / Early education

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Partial Transcript: Carol, when did you know that you were brighter than other children around you?

Segment Synopsis: Carol talks about her childhood growing up in Jericho, Vermont. She describes hanging out in her father's filling station as a child and watching her mother cook in her restaurant. White talks about moving around Massachusetts, and relates her experience in Brookline, which was a primarily Jewish sector. She talks about being moved a year ahead in elementary school, as she was academically gifted. White describes her freedom in Boston, recalling the liberty given to her by her mother to explore the city. White talks about how growing up in the country in Vermont led her to develop an affinity for independent learning, which helped her learn effectively as an individual into her adult years.

Keywords: Boston, Massachusetts; Brookline Massachusetts; Jericho Vermont; childhood

00:07:53 - White's introduction to football

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Partial Transcript: First off, I never set out to have a non- traditional career.

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how, as an undergraduate, she initially wanted to work for government and thus studied political science at the University of Southern Mississippi. White continues to talk about how she funded her college education through music scholarships and work. White talks about how she came to get a Master's Degree in Information Science, in which her thesis was focused on finding errors in computer programs. White talks about her later experience working in an all black high school during the first year of integration, where she assisted with the statistical aspects of football. She describes how she learned how to understand football plays by watching old football films and by observing the actions of well-known football players.

Keywords: Albany Georgia; Florida State University; Information Science; Southern Mississippi University; Valdosta, Florida

00:13:22 - Analyzing football plays / Reasons behind coaching

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Partial Transcript: John Marshall was a defensive coordinator with the falcons...

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how she built a detailed knowledge in football by watching coaches in live action. She describes how she advanced from analyzing plays to coaching linebackers before she was eventually promoted to coaching defense. White explains why she came to work in football, as she states it was an opportunity to help people. White also states that helping the Albany High School football team had the benefit of location as she saw it as an opportunity to get involved in the politics of East Georgia.

Keywords: Albany Monroe High School; Albany, Georgia; Darty County County Association of Educators; Jimmy Carter; John Marshall; Willy Thomas

00:21:24 - Physics, mathematics and coaching

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Partial Transcript: The head football coach that came in...

Segment Synopsis: White describes an incident where she went to Fort Lauderdale in Florida to learn from Philip Eschbach about the statistics and scientific aspects of football. White talks about how she perceived football as a way to teach kids to not only become better students, but to also have career goals. White describes how she additionally came to coach cheer leading; she recalls how the cheerleading team eventually grew to perform well enough to compete. White also describes the integration of male cheerleaders into Fort Lauderdale's team..

Keywords: College of Education; Fort Lauderdale; Philip Innes Eschbach; William Curry; cheerleading; football

00:27:05 - Attending football conferences

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Partial Transcript: In April of 1985, LaVell Edwards was speaking at the Georgia Tech spring coaching clinic.

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how she went to the coaching clinic at the Georgia Technical University, where LaVell Edwards, a coach, was speaking. White describes how after attending the clinic, she was offered a job by Bill Curry to coach due to her extensive knowledge of football. White talks about how she was immediately hired as an analyzer before she eventually came to work with the other men. White talks about her experience attending a football conference for the first time at the University of Georgia, and she describes how she came to be seen as equal among her male coworkers. White recalls a retreat with other coaches in to Sky Valley in Northern Georgia, in which she became more acquainted with the staff on Georgia Tech's football team.

Keywords: Bill Curry; Georgia Tech; John Guy; LaVell Edwards; North Georgia; Sky Valley; University of Georgia

00:35:43 - Encouraging better coaches

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Partial Transcript: I've always had the confidence that once I understood who my audience would be, that I could make a room want to learn.

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how her childhood, specifically how growing up around adults, helped her to interact with the other coaches more effectively. White describes how talking about her weaknesses as a coach encouraged the other members on the Georgia Tech football staff to do likewise which, in turn, helped to build a better team. White talks about her experience coaching David Bell, the star kicker at Georgia Tech, in which she claims her relationship with him assisted him to become a successful and charitable person.

Keywords: Bill Curry; David Bell; Georgia Tech; Kentucky; Larry New; Mike Snow; Stacey Parker; Thomas Palmer

00:44:29 - Kick-aid Inc.

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Partial Transcript: For a female in an all male profession, the fact..

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how coaching specialized players to interact effectively with the rest of the team helped Georgia Tech's football team to perform more efficiently and effectively. White explains how she started Kick-aid, a football camp focused on educating kids in the math and science behind football, purposed for giving kids the leadership training for both recruitment and other aspects of life.

Keywords: Bobby Ross; Kick-Aid Inc.; Pat James; Snapping (football)

00:56:00 - Physics of kicking, punting, and snapping

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Partial Transcript: Now back to the nitty-gritty of the actual process ...

Segment Synopsis: White talks about the mathematics/ physics involved in football teaching and coaching. She talks about the methodology involved with kicking, punting and snapping, such as where to strike the ball in order to maximize the initial velocity and distance the ball travels. White talks about how she grew to want to help other people. She explains how her role models growing up encouraged her and did like-wise.

Keywords: Bill Curry; Georgia State University; football; kicking; mathematics; physics; punting

01:04:08 - Reasons behind teaching

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Partial Transcript: There were some folks that recognized in me what I would do.

Segment Synopsis: White recalls how people she knew growing up encouraged her to be a teacher. She relates a story of how she would talk "Bobbie" (who she later found out to be be Robert Frost) and how he would often tell her that she would be a teacher. White additionally describes how her 9th grade English teacher and band director encouraged her, and foresaw White's potential as an educator. White states that her models encouraged her to care for others. White explains how Edward J. "Doc" Story and William Curry, a fellow football coach/physicist knew White would become a great empowered to other people.

Keywords: Cambridge; Cape Canaveral; Edward J. "Doc" Storey; Florida; Patrick Air force Base; Philip I. Eschbach; Robert Frost; University of Southern Mississippi; William Curry

01:12:17 - Publishing potential / Coaching income

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Partial Transcript: People have tried to get you do a book...

Segment Synopsis: The interviewer (Bill Curry) talks about his want for White to write a book to encourage other people, particularly those trying to enter non traditional positions. White responds that while she wants to publish, she feels that publishers might alter her message. White talks about how she never received an exceptionally large income from the work that she did, as she felt that a large salary would cause her to compare herself to others, and ultimately place a value on the work she did.

Keywords: Auburn Kicking Academy; Georgia Tech; Publishing; William (Bill) Curry; income

01:20:41 - White's legacy / Building leadership through Kick-Aid

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Partial Transcript: My next question was going to be what would the Carol White Legacy be, but I think you just answered it.

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how her legacy is the people that she affected through her actions. She talks about how football coaching is a job that demands the ability to create a learning environment. White hints that recent football recruiting effort need to focus on recruiting students that want to learn in both football and life. White talks about how encouraging leadership among students is a integral part of teaching football; a philosophy which she says she upholds through her company, Kick-Aid.

Keywords: Legacy; football; football recruiting; leadership; teaching

01:25:53 - Singing in Choir / Teaching altruism

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Partial Transcript: What would you like for people to know about Carol White?

Segment Synopsis: White talks about how she has few friends who are older woman her age, simply because she has trouble relating to them. White describes her love for singing in the choir, though she can rarely attend as her job requires traveling. White explains that by becoming a football coach, she was able to use her talents to help others. White emphasizes the importance of relaying the message of helping others.

Keywords: Choir; Maya Angelou; St. James Methodist