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Rusk IIIII, Dean Rusk interviewed by Richard Rusk and Thomas Schoenbaum, Part 2, 1985 November 5

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:00 - Opposition to the Vietnam War

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Partial Transcript: All the major networks chimed in with their own editorial positions of the Vietnam policy.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the opposition to the Vietnam War by the media and the American people. He also describes the civil-war-like elements of the Vietnam War.

Keywords: Adolf Hitler; Dwight Eisenhower; Franklin Roosevelt; John Foster Dulles; Pearl Harbor; SEATO; WWII; Walter Cronkite

00:08:37 - Partial bomb halts

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Partial Transcript: Could we maybe get back to the chronology?

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk recalls being one of the people who helped convince Lyndon Johnson to start a partial bombing halt in North Vietnam. He also discusses the Paris Peace Talks that brought an end to the war. He describes the way that the leaking of information about a proposal to send more troops to Vietnam affected the way that Lyndon Johnson made decisions.

Keywords: Arthur Goldberg; Berlin Blockade; Clark Clifford; Hanoi; National Security Council; Patrick Dean; Robert McNamara; William Bundy

00:20:41 - Discussion of Lyndon Johnson and loyalty

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Partial Transcript: Walt Rostow called you "first among equals of all the people advising LBJ."

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses his relationship with Lyndon B. Johnson and talks about the importance that Johnson placed on personal loyalty.

Keywords: Bob McNamara; Bobby Kennedy; Clark Clifford; John F. Kennedy; President of the World Bank; Richard Russell; Warren Commission

00:28:21 - Advisers of Lyndon Johnson

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Partial Transcript: On March 15 Dean Acheson met with LBJ at the White House, I believe over lunch, and had a long talk with him.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the people that gave Lyndon Johnson advice on the Vietnam War, including Dean Acheson, Clark Clifford, and Bobby Kennedy.

Keywords: Bill Moyers; Jane Mossellem; Saigon; partisan democrats

00:37:01 - Johnson's speech on March 31, 1968

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Partial Transcript: Pop, let's talk about this March 28 meeting to polish the draft of the Presidential speech to be given on March 31.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses Lyndon Johnson's speech given on March 31, 1968 which announced steps to limit the war in Vietnam as well as his decision to not run for reelection.

Keywords: ANZUS; Bill Bundy; Clark Clifford; Richard Nixon; Saigon; Walt Rostow

00:45:58 - Information leaks

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Partial Transcript: Pop, we were discussing this earlier bombing proposal of yours in early March, around March 4, 5, and 6.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk talks about the information leak regarding the request for 206,000 more troops to be sent to Vietnam. He also recalls the cabinet meetings that took place to discuss the Vietnam War.

Keywords: Armed Services Committee; Bill Fulbright; Clark Clifford; Cornell University; Fulbright Hearings; Paul Nitze; Senate Foreign Relations Committee

00:55:49 - Influence of Dean Acheson

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Partial Transcript: We're talking about Dean Acheson and the extent of his influence with both Lyndon Johnson and Dean Rusk.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses Dean Acheson (former Secretary of State) and his influence on Lyndon Johnson and on Rusk himself.

Keywords: Bill Bundy; Cuba Missile Crisis; Harry Truman; Robert Kennedy