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RUSK GGGG, Dean Rusk interviewed by Richard Rusk and Thomas Schoenbaum circa 1985

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:07 - Japan, Pearl Harbor, and Hitler

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Partial Transcript: This is a follow-up interview on essentially World War II. We'll try to cover some holes in the previous interviews.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses his involvement in the G-2 (Military Intelligence) of the U.S. Army during the Japenese bombing of Pearl Harbor in 1941. He discusses the decision by the United States and Great Britain to give priority to the war against Hitler rather than Japan.

Keywords: Douglas MacArthur; Indonesia; Malaya; Philippines; Southeast Asia

00:11:01 - Battle of Singapore / Interactions with George Marshall

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Partial Transcript: Now, Singapore was a major defeat for the British, of course, and therefore for us indirectly.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the fall of Singapore, which was a major defeat for the British in WWII and the United States indirectly. He also discusses his interactions with the Chief of Staff of the Army, George Marshall, during his time as a captain in the G-2.

Keywords: Australia; Burma; China; India; Indonesia; Malaya; Tokyo raid of 1942; Winston Churchill

00:17:53 - The Operations Division

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Partial Transcript: In 1942 WBTPD, the War Plans Division became the OPD. What was the relationship of WPD when you were there to G-2? How did you fit into--

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses his involvement with Operations Division of the general staff in Washington, D.C., where he dealt with long-range polices and planning. He also talks about his department's relationship with the State War Navy Coordinating Committee (SWINK).

Keywords: Abe Lincoln Brigade; G-2; Harry Truman; John J. McCloy; Oxford; WBTPD; WPD; War Plans Division

00:24:04 - Issues with SWINK

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Partial Transcript: Now getting back to the issues which you dealt with in SWINK: at that time there were many interesting issues.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses some of the issues he was involved with while at SWINK, including the decision to retain the Japanese emperor as well as the Japanese surrender. He also talks about the Manhattan Project and the first nuclear weapons.

Keywords: Abraham Lincoln Brigade; Hiroshima; Hitler; Kuril Islands; Potsdam Agreement; Soviet Union; Truman

00:36:56 - Four power occupation of Germany

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Partial Transcript: What was your planning with respect to Germany during that time, that summer of '45? That was a lively--what did you do with respect to that theatre?

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk describes the difficulties of dealing with the Soviet Union during the post-WWII period. He also discusses the four-power arrangement for the occupation of Germany.

Keywords: Franklin Roosevelt; Joseph Stalin; Operations Division

00:42:03 - Career transition into the State Department

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Partial Transcript: Now between September 2nd and February of '46 you went over to the State Department. What was primary after the Japanese surrender? What was on the agenda primarily those six months or so?

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses being demobilized from the Army and becoming the Assistant Division Chief of the Division of International Security Affairs in the State Department. He also talks about becoming involved with the United Nations.

Keywords: Alger Hiss; Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Far Eastern Commission; John J. McCloy; Joseph Johson; SWINK; Special Political Affaris

00:46:10 - Relationship with General Stilwell

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Partial Transcript: I wanted to ask, going back to Stilwell--I don't think we have on tape your first meeting with Stilwell. Wasn't that in San Francisco?

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses his relationship with General Joseph Stilwell while he was in the G-2, and talks about his reaction to Stilwell's release from the Army.

Keywords: CBI; Chiang Kai-shek; Dan Sultan; Fort Leavenworth; General Stilwell; John Stewart; Washington conspiracy

00:52:53 - China-India-Burma Theater

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Partial Transcript: Were you there when Abe Lincoln came around in February of '45? Made his worldwide tour and he stopped in Delhi with Sultan?

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses being the Chief of War Plans during the China-Burma-India Theater (CBI).

Keywords: Chiang Kai-shek; Gandhi; Ho Chi Minh; Mao Tse-tung

01:00:26 - Reflections on the Operations Division

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Partial Transcript: Well, I think we're about at the end of another tape. Thank you very much.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk praises the people that he worked with while he was in the Operations Division, including Tick Bonesteel and James McCormack.

Keywords: Atomic Energy Commission; George Lincoln; George Marshall