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Rusk EE, Interview with Dean Rusk, circa 1985

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:00 - Civil Rights and relations with other nations

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Partial Transcript: The question is civil rights.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about the difficulty some foreign ambassadors had in completing every day tasks in a segregated America. Fixing race relations would help the United States' relations with other countries.

Keywords: Arthur Goldberg; Carl Rowan; Civil Rights Act of 1964; Cosmos Club; Mennen Williams; Metropolitan Club; State Department; ambassadors

00:04:21 - Blacks in the State Department

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Partial Transcript: This was a critically important matter to us.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about blacks in the State Department. He mentions how many black workers who went to predominantly black colleges did not pass the Foreign Service Exam.

Keywords: Carl Rowan; Foreign Service Exam; Labor Department; Mennen Williams; State Department; unions

00:14:21 - Civil Rights Act of 1964 / Race relations and Ambassadors

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Partial Transcript: Did it give you any problem with the members of the Senate taking this position on domestic legislation with the tradition of nonpolitical activity on the part of the State Department?

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks a little bit about the Civil Rights Act, and the key senators who made the passage of the act possible. Rusk later talks about how other countries did not want black ambassadors because they believe that blacks were second class citizens. Therefore, they do not want second class ambassadors.

Keywords: Carl Rowan; Chaing Kai-shek; Civil Rights Act; Everett Dirksen; Jacob Javits; New York; Senate Judiciary Committee; United Nations

00:20:15 - Testimony for the Senate Judiciary Committee / Civil Rights Bill

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Partial Transcript: Pop, getting back, if you will, to that hearing just for a moment.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about his testimony to the Senate Committee on the issue of Civil Rights, and he talks about President Kennedy's intellectual view on Civil Rights. Rusk later talks about the Civil Rights Bill and the opponents to the bill.

Keywords: Carl Hayden; Everett Dirksen; Lincoln Memorial; Lister Hill; Martin Luther King Jr; New York Times; Richard B Russell; Senate Committee; State Department; Strom Thurmond; Warren Cohen

00:31:34 - Human Rights Convention

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Partial Transcript: I think it's appropriate for the United States to put forward its deepest commitments as a nation in this field of individual liberty.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about the United States' commitment to protect civil liberties and individual liberties for people in other countries. Rusk also talks about how the US has ratified so few conventions on Human Rights. He briefly talks about Eleanor Roosevelt's role as the head of the U.N.'s Human Rights Commission, and he talks about she authored the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Keywords: Cape Town; Carl Rowan; Civil Rights; Eleanor Roosevelt; Genocide Convention; Human Rights Convention; United Nations; Universal Declaration of Human Rights; shore leave

00:42:13 - US relations with South Africa / Zimbabwe

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Partial Transcript: Do you think the black and some white leaders in the civil rights movement today that are attempting to bring about change in South Africa through protests at the South African Embassy in Washington, whether they are taking the right tack?

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about the United States' relations with South Africa and how those relations were tested because of race relations. Rusk briefly talks about Zimbabwe and the government they set up. He also talks about how the United Kingdom asked for help in maintaining Rhodesia (Zimbabwe).

Keywords: Kenya; Pretoria; Rhodesia; Senator Weicker; South Africa; South African Embassy; Untied Kingdom; Zimbabwe

00:54:18 - Lyndon B Johnson and the Civil Rights Bill

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Partial Transcript: Let's go back to 1963 and '64 for a few moments.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about Lyndon B Johnson's role in securing the passage of the 1964 passage of the Civil Rights bill. He states how Johnson's views on Civil Rights came out of his 'deep feelings'.

Keywords: Arthur Goldberg; Civil Rights Bill; Comfort, Texas; German refugees; Germany; Justice Hugo Black; Lyndon B Johnson; Senate; Voting Rights Bill; chauffeur; race relations