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RUSK JJJJ, Dean Rusk interviewed by Richard Rusk and Thomas Schoenbaum circa 1984

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:11 - Article 43 of the U.N. Charter

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Partial Transcript: This is a tape with the Honorable Mr. Dean Rusk about the postwar world order and the Truman years.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the proposal to create a U.N. Security Council committee designed to implement Article 43 of the U.N. Charter relating to maintaining international peace and security (see hyperlink below). He states that this portion of the charter has practically dissolved by non-use.

Keywords: Congo; Ralph Bunche; Russia; neutral countries

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00:08:49 - Relationship with John Foster Dulles

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Partial Transcript: Another document in the file on Foreign Relations in the United States series: On July 30, 1947 there is a letter from you to John Foster Dulles basically congratulating him on being appointed representative of the United States delegation to the United Nations.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk describes his relationship with John Foster Dulles while Dulles was the representative of the United States delegation to the United Nations, and later when he became the Secretary of State under Dwight Eisenhower.

Keywords: Doctrine of Massive Retaliation; Japanese Peace Treaty; Marshall Plan; NATO; Paris Peace Conference; Princeton; Woodrow Wilson

00:23:49 - George Marshall, Robert Lovett, and Russia on Article 43

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Partial Transcript: Turning to another subject, on September 18, 1947 there was a telegram that [George Catlett] Marshall sent to [Robert Abercrombie] Lovett.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the difference of opinion on Article 43 of the U.N. between Secretary of State, George Marshall, and his Undersecretary, Robert Lovett, regarding the size of the force proposed under the article. He also talks about how the Russians felt that the United States was overreaching in the U.N.

Keywords: Eleanor Roosevelt; Harry Truman; Russian Warmongering Resolution

00:34:14 - Relationship with Alger Hiss

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Partial Transcript: Around this time also you were named a member or an alternate member of our United Nations delegation. You went from advisor to our alternate.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk talks about working for Alger Hiss while Rusk was the Assistant Chief of the Division of International Security Affairs, and discusses some rumors that were made about Alger Hiss.

Keywords: George Marshall; Hitler-Stalin Pact; The Pentagon; United Nations

00:41:26 - United Nations Meeting in Paris / Phillip Jessup

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Partial Transcript: In the fall of 1948 there was an interesting session of the United Nations, a third session was held in Paris.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses the United Nations meeting that was held in Paris, France in the fall of 1948. He also talks about his relationship with Philip Jessup, the spokesman of the U.N. Security Council.

Keywords: Andrei Gromyko; Arthur Vandenberg; Berlin blockade; George Marshall; Harry Truman; John F. Kennedy; John Foster Dulles

00:51:25 - Issues in the 1940s

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Partial Transcript: In 1948 there were some of the issues in addition to Berlin. There was the issue of the credentials of the permanent representative of Czechoslovakia.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk discusses several issues faced by the United Nations in the late 1940s including a communist coup d'├ętat in Czechoslovakia, negotiations with Russia, and atomic energy.

Keywords: Baruch proposal; Jan Papanek; Manchuria; United Nations Atomic Energy Commission; Vladimir Houdek; communism