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Rusk IIII, Dean Rusk interviewed by Richard Rusk and Thomas Schoenbaum, 1985 June

Richard B. Russell Library for Political Research and Studies, University of Georgia
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00:00:25 - President Johnson's foreign policy in Latin America

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Partial Transcript: Just to start with what I think is the State Department involvement--a question about Latin America policy leading up to the Dominican Republic.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about President Johnson's approach to Latin America, including his overall philosophy and his appointment of Thomas Clifton Mann as Under Secretary of State for Economic Affairs.

Keywords: Appropriations Committees; CIA; Central Intelligence Agency; Dominican Republic; Inter-American Affairs; JFK; Johnson Administration; LBJ; Latin American dictatorships; Mann Doctrine; Marxism; Marxist-Leninism; Panama Canal; President John F. Kennedy; Punta del Este; Thomas Woodrow Wilson; coups d'├ętat

00:07:21 - U.S. role in Latin American countries

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Partial Transcript: Let me follow up on that comment, Pop, and get back to LBJ's attitude.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk and Richard Rusk debate the right of the U.S. to intervene in other governments, especially those of Latin America. They focus mainly on the Dominican Republic and the Organization of American States (OAS).

Keywords: Antonio Imbert Barrera; CIA; Central Intelligence Agency; Fidel Castro; Juan Bosch; Latin American dictatorships; OAS Charter; Rafael Leonidas Trujillo; Santo Domingo; Theodore Draper; constitutional election; liberals; sovereignty

00:15:46 - Comparison of President Johnson and President Kennedy / The Dominican crisis

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Partial Transcript: LBJ, his attitude, as being possibly a little different than John Kennedy's, let's get to that point for just a minute.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about the differences and similarities of Presidents Johnson and Kennedy in relation to Latin American policy, focusing on their views on communism. Later, Dean Rusk discusses the Dominican crisis and the effects of the American intervention.

Keywords: Bay of Pigs; Cold War; Communism; Cuba; Elias Wessin y Wessin; Fidel Castro; George Ball; Juan Bosch; Marxism; Marxist-Leninism; OAS; Organization of American States; Santo Domingo; the Dominican Republic

00:22:42 - U.S. view of communism

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Partial Transcript: You didn't have either then or now any second thoughts or apprehensions about the idea of the Americans landing 20,000 troops...

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about the threat of communism ideology, especially in Latin America. He discusses the response of the United States to communist ideology across the world.

Keywords: Cold War; Dominican Republic; Imperialism; Latin American dictatorships; Marxism; Marxist-Leninism; Soviet Union; constitutional elections

00:25:59 - U.S. intervention in Santo Domingo

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Partial Transcript: Let's go to some particular questions.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk discusses the motivation for and effects of U.S. intervention in Santo Domingo through its military occupation of the island in 1965 in response to government and civil unrest and fear of a communist dictatorship, in large part, due to the proximity of Cuba.

Keywords: Abe Fortas; Dominican Republic; Donald J. Reid Cabral; Elias Wessin y Wessin; Embajador Hotel; Juan Bosch; OAS; Organization of American States

00:32:12 - U.S. intervention in the Dominican Republic

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Partial Transcript: LBJ, in The Vantage Point [: Perspectives of the Presidency], reports a pretty crucial meeting of April 28--April 29 in which he had the unanimous consent of his advisers.

Segment Synopsis: Rusk talks about U.S. military presence in the Dominican Republic. He focuses on U.S. motivations and the results of this intervention. He also briefly discusses President Johnson's appointment of John Bartlow Martin as a special envoy to the Dominican Republican during the 1965 intervention.

Keywords: Cold War; Cuban Missile Crisis; Dominican crisis; Ellsworth Bunker; Embajador Hotel; Johnson Administration; LBJ; OAS; Organization of American States; President Lyndon B. Johnson; Stevenson liberalism; Tap Bennett; Thomas Mann; U.S. foreign policy; United States Marine Corps; coalition governments

00:41:27 - U.S. intervention in Grenada

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Partial Transcript: Okay, this is an article, Friday, June 21, 1985, by Irving Kristol in The Wall Street Journal criticizing Grenada on the basis that...

Segment Synopsis: Rusk analyses the U.S. invasion of Grenada. He debates the current [circa 1985] system of international laws and its effects on U.S. policy.

Keywords: American foreign policy; Colonialism; Communism; Imperialism; Karl Marx; Marxism; Marxist-Leninism; Theodore Roosevelt; UN; United Nations; Woodrow Wilson; impermissible aggression; internationalism; national sovereignty; nationalism; nationalist isolationism; unilateral military action

00:46:44 - Johnson's response to Dominican crisis / Policy-making

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Partial Transcript: LBJ took a lot of heat for having exaggerated the situation down there and making some wild statement at press conference and things...

Segment Synopsis: Rusk discusses President Johnson's style of presentation and leadership and its effect on the situation in the Dominican Republic. Later, he and Schoenbaum talk about the process and motivations of policy-making.

Keywords: Communism; Dominican Republic; Johnson Administration; Korean War; LBJ; President Lyndon B. Johnson; Santo Domingo; Seventh Fleet; the Johnson Treatment

00:55:13 - U.S. commitment to democracy

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Partial Transcript: Cuban people and are they in fact worse off under Castro than under a fellow like Batista.

Segment Synopsis: Dean Rusk and Richard Rusk discuss the U.S. policy of supporting and spreading democratic governments. Finally, Dean Rusk briefly debates the benefits of covert U.S. activity.

Keywords: Capitalism; Cuba; Declaration of Independence; Fidel Castro; Fulgencio Batista; Karl Marx; Marxism; Marxist-Leninism; McGeorge Bundy; centralized economy; the Free World